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Hello can anyone help me out please ,I have a Philco model #20 , I want to change all caps and resistors except the long wire wound one, I have checked all the tabs on the long wire wound resistor and have found all seem fine except numbers 6 & 7 , they should be 975 ohms but check at zero ohms , for some reason there is a wire soldered across the 6 & 7 tabs , I am thinking some one did a repair on this set and did not have a 975 ohm resistor to put in here so they just soldered a pice of wire across the 6 & 7 tabs , can anyone tell me if maybe it came this way from the factory and is ok , or should I cut this wire and put in a 1k resistor and if so what watt should I use , I have attached the schematics and a photo of the wire wound resistor and also have attached a drawing of it with the readings I got , would be thankful for any help I won't change this until I am sure , all the very best have a great day Rick
PS I will send the schematic in another post had some problems
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Please move the link here, so I could delete the other thread.
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As to the 6/7 pins shorted, it would be prudent to desolder that short and see if the section is open and someone decided to fix it that way.
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Hi Rick,
Here is a link to the schematic for the Model 20. It is found in our Philco Library under Documents under early schematics.
https://philcoradio.com/library/index.ph...chematics/
Yes, definitely cut the wire and add a resistor of 970 Ohm +/- 20%. A 1K 5W or preferably 10W resistor will do fine. Having that resistor section shorted raises the voltage across the rest of the divider and puts undue strain on the other resistors in the voltage divider- the subsections of this taped resistor, and definitely the volume pot which is part of the divider. The volume control has 2 sections. One section, connected to points e and F adjust volume by varying the cathode bias. The other section of the volume pot controls the strength of the signal entering the first RF amp. This set has no AVC. Too strong a signal will saturate the 1st and 2nd RF Amp and cut off sound. This is not evidence of an issue with the set.
The filter caps in this set are not electrolytics. they are paper and foil. However, they should be replaced, along with all the other caps. Removing the caps form the can is not very easy, but is doable.
The other caps and some resistors are enclosed in Bakelite "blocks" sealed with tar. Below is a link to an excellent article by Phorum member "Morzh" on how to hollow out the blocks and replace the parts inside without having to desolder the blocks from the set:
https://philcoradio.com/library/index.ph...soldering/
Also attached is a great article on issues with the audio "interstage" transformer, how to "bridge" an interstage transformer with an open primary (a common problem) and how to rewire a good transformer to capacitively couple the primary to the 1st AF stage, removing DC from the primary, extending the life of the transformer and greatly improving fidelity:
https://philcoradio.com/library/index.ph...nsformers/
This is a "TRF" (Tuned Radio Frequency) receiver, which performs rather well. This was a seminal set, as it was introduced in the throes of the Great Depression. This set ushered in the "Cathedral" style, and sold for around $50.00, providing great value for the price.
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Hey fellows thanks so much for the help , I feel better when I ask you fellows instead just going ahead changing things without knowing for sure , take care all the very best and moving on with this restore I may have a few more questions to ask , again thanks so much all the very best Rick
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