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Philco 46-480 Electronic Restoration
#46

Thank you, Richard! I am using KiCAD for the schematic and PCB design.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#47

I started to consider a PCB for the new C100 A/B bakelite capacitor, but then I had an idea. What if I were to get a three-lug terminal strip with a common central lug, such as this?

   

I could mount it to the chassis where the old bakelite capacitor has been removed, and then solder the two new safety capacitors to it. Schematically, here's what I need to do.

   

This would be very simple with a terminal strip. Additionally, I don't feel that I need to over-engineer this one with a PCB. The entire system is mounted to the underside of the chassis, and there is only one screw to connect the grounded connection to the chassis.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#48

Well, my personal opinion:

If you miss the backelite, it is OK
If you do have the existing backelite, it is a waste of effort.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#49

Are the bakelite capacitors allowed to stay in place? I suppose that's my only concern.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#50

A popular practice is to restuff them with new capacitors.

This is a thread I wrote, it is in "Shop talk" here.

https://philcoradio.com/library/index.ph...soldering/

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#51

The simple answer is "no, they can't remain in place". These are stuffed with paper caps and resistor wire in some cases, and need to be refurbished. It's not a difficult procedure, and there are tutorials on this site to guide you. Lots of help here if you ask for it. Gary

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Gary - Westland Michigan
#52

That’s what I had thought. I know that we can reuse the mica capacitors when they are within tolerance, but I didn’t think so regarding the Bakelite capacitors.

Thank you for the link, Mike! I think I’ll restuff this one. It does look quite simple.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906
#53

It is simple.

As for "can they remain in place" - well, if this means "can I simply parallel new caps to the old one, using it as a solder post" - no, you cannot. The old cap, first of, retain some capacitance, often it goes up; what's worse, it develops leakage (which is the reason it gets replaced) and this leakage will be in parallel to the new cap. So you will end up with not cured leakage problem and wrong capacitance value.

However, if you use it purely as solder post, making sure the old capacitor does not become part of the circuit, then yes, ir can stay. I see little reason if any to do this, it is wasteful and, to me, simply counterproductive, but I've seen this (and invariably would do away with it).

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#54

Understood. Yes, I will remove the internals of the Bakelite casing and install the new capacitors inside.

Initially (when you first suggested that I keep the Bakelite) I had thought you meant that we could keep the original unit intact, but now I understand what you had in mind.

Joseph

Philco 46-480
Philco 49-906




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