Welcome Guest! Be sure you know and follow the Phorum Rules before posting. Thank you and Enjoy! (January 12) x

Thread Closed
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

PT-25 audio distortion
#16

If the voice coil in the speaker isn't rubbing in any way then a gassy output tube can also cause this problem, it isn't a common problem but it does happen.
Regards
Arran
#17

Bob has a point asking about alignment: specifically a very bad IF misalignment can cause distortion, although to an experienced person discernable from the one caused by clipping/waveform distortion.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#18

Good morning fellas -

I performed an alignment by ear several times which did increase the volume and clarity but did not resolve the underlying distortion. Each component replaced has made an improvement but there's still an issue that I haven't isolated. A couple of those resistors I replaced were past 20% out of tolerance and I was sure was the cause.

I worked from home yesterday but spent the day in the radio shop working on this and listening to AFRS Christmas broadcasts on my 66s. A great time but didn't get to the last two resistors. Kind of got side tracked a few times. One is a 4.7meg but my tester does not measure above 2M. Been thinking of getting myself a new Fluke.

I don't have a permanent magnet speaker to use as a test.
Could the volume pot be the cause, and if so, how to test?

I'm also not entirely sure the speaker isn't the cause.

Regards,
Paul
#19

(12-21-2017, 10:58 AM)Paul Wrote:  Good morning fellas -


Could the volume pot be the cause, and if so, how to test?

Yes

VOM

You will probably have to remove the connections. Turn the control end to end, Test resistance from both ends to center. The change in resistance should be smooth and continuous. The rate of change depends on thr taper of the pot - Audio (log) or linear taper.

"I just might turn into smoke, but I feel fine"
http://www.russoldradios.com/
#20

+1
The volume control is listed @ 500,000 ohms alias 500K or .5Meg. More than likely it has an audio taper. This means the w/ the control turned up half way from the low side to the wiper should read about 50K, and from the wiper to the high side 450K. See pic below.
Linear taper w/the control 1/2 up would be 250K. What that does it put most of the audio gain at the first 1/4" of rotation. Audio taper makes the audio level spread out over most of the controls rotation.
Bad or wrong value pot can mess with the avc circuit causing distortion.
GL


Attached Files Image(s)
   

When my pals were reading comic books
I was down in the basement in my dad's
workshop. Perusing his Sam's Photofoacts
Vol 1-50 admiring the old set and trying to
figure out what all those squiggly meant.
Circa 1966
Now I think I've got!

Terry
#21

If you suspect the pot, then find a station that is received well enough to be heard well but not too loud at say half pot scale, disconect the pot, and connect two resistors, one between the low point and wiper being, say 50K and the othe between the wiper and the top point being 450K (values are approximate, don't have to be exact) and see if the distortion persists.
I doubt it, but possible.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.
#22

Just a quick update to finish this off. Vol pot tested good so I jumped in a permanent magnet speaker and the sound was much better so I'm concluding that the old, original speaker is bit worn out. Polished the cabinet, replaced the plastic dial cover and called this project done.

Thanks all for your help with this. I learned some new testing skills, got rid of "black market" contact cleaner and have another Philco on the shelf.

On to the next one!
Regards,
Paul
#23

Testing the speaker is the furst thing you do if you cannot explain distortion. It is the cheapest and fastest way, not requiring much doing.
Then if it doesn't help you start thinking deeper.

People who do not drink, do not smoke, do not eat red meat will one day feel really stupid lying there and dying from nothing.




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
Philco Model 38-7: what caps & resistors do fail typically?
Since you stated earlier, you have a console 38-7XX.  They also had a 38-7T (table), and 38-7CS (chairside).  A very nic...GarySP — 01:18 PM
Part numbers to model cross
That I wouldn't know, but sometimes the radio document itself shows one, same as the capacitor cans' etc pinouts.morzh — 12:46 PM
Part numbers to model cross
Thank you morzh, that is exactly what I was looking for. Now , is there some where that shows pinouts for Philco power ...Jim Dutridge — 11:37 AM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
Thanks for your help Michael. In fact, this video is only an intermediate result. Later I had to apply another tinting l...RadioSvit — 09:01 AM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
Great job on the cabinet. PS. In the US notation, "kenotron" refers to specific type of tubes; we call re...morzh — 08:24 AM
Part numbers to model cross
This document has at least some tables of models and parts used. Example: Choke 32-7572, used in 604 radio. Search f...morzh — 08:19 AM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
I also checked all the radio tubes on my Hickok 530 tube tester. The 5Z3 kenotron turned out to be faulty, all the other...RadioSvit — 08:02 AM
Restoration of the Canadian General Electric A-87
Well... While the varnish is drying up, I started repairing the chassis... Of course I started by replacing the pa...RadioSvit — 07:12 AM
Philco Model 38-7: what caps & resistors do fail typically?
Hello Martin, Welcome aboard our little community what great Model 38-7 Sincerely Richardradiorich — 12:30 AM
Philco Model 38-7: what caps & resistors do fail typically?
Welcome to the Phorum Martin. I count about 9 paper caps, the 3 electrolytic caps and 2-Y2 safety caps to replace th...RodB — 09:44 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>