Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Philco decals
#1

Chuck, I'm going to need replacement decals for my 630B. After the re-finish, I'll need a new one. I need to pick your brain tofind a good source--Rock-Sea? Can you give me a few links?
#2

Tubenutt, I have picked up some from Rock-Sea and they are high quality and a good match. I wouldn't hesitate recommending them to anyone.
#3

TN,

Take ACCURATE measurements of the original decal BEFORE you strip the cabinet!!!! Otherwise you will not be able to match the correct one on the decal sheet. There are variations in the logo sizes.

Rock-Sea is #1.

Mike Tobin contacted me and I collaborated on the correct dimensioning of the various incarnations of PHILCO logos and other Philco decal nomenclature.

Mike's your man.

As an aside, I also helped Mike with the correct Emerson "Treble Clef" logo as well, in case you ever need one for your Emerson collection.
#4

I agree with Chuck, what I do is measure the height of the decal and the width and if you have any doubts take a picture and send the pictures along.
#5

Thanks guys..I figured as much--I bet AES doesn't have 'em anymore--what is their website URL, Icon_confused:
#6

AES decal sheets for Philco are WRONG. That's the reason Mike and I collaborated. I was not satisfied with what I got from AES - wrong sizes and poorer screening details and some misregistration of bordered edges.

(The Emerson sheet I also got had a horrible rendition of the Treble Clef and that was also "fixed" by Mike and I on the Rock Sea sheets.)
#7

Good point on the SIZES (and quality) of the AES sheets; however, the STYLE of the Philco trademark (for 1937 and newer Philco sets) is RIGHT on the AES sheets. Mike is a great guy and provides wonderful products, but his "bold font" Philco trademark decals look nothing like the originals.

On the other hand, his "narrow font" Philco trademark decals are as close as you can get to the 1932-36 style. Not dead-on, but close.

Not trying to provoke any arguments...but I'll provide photos later to illustrate my point. (Man, I wish I had a digital camera right now.)

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#8

Ron, you should relay this info on the incorrect ones to Mike. I did not have a sample from my collection of this one, so you input will be welcomed to "fix" this one. Icon_smile

{I used a 1/32" graduated steel rule and a micrometer for dimensions and font and border thicknesses measurements.}
#9

Oh, I will...as soon as I take the pictures and get them developed, I'll post them here *and* forward them to Mike. He does such good work that I am sure he can straighten out those "bold font" Philco trademark decals in no time. Icon_smile

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN
#10

Okay, here are the results I promised...

First, let's take a look at an original Philco decal from a Model 41-221CI, typical of 1937 and newer PHILCO decals. Following that, the largest size of the PHILCO decal on the AES sheet, and finally, a Rock-Sea reproduction.

[Image: https://philcoradio.com/images/phorum/ARF/37upphil.jpg]

[Image: https://philcoradio.com/images/phorum/ARF/decal3.jpg]

[Image: https://philcoradio.com/images/phorum/ARF/decal4.jpg]

Compare the above carefully. See what I mean? The AES decal (middle) is identical to the original above it. The Rock-Sea repro is different; not only in font style but in height.

Now let's compare an original 1932-36 Philco decal from a 16B tombstone to the only currently available repro, from Rock-Sea:

[Image: https://philcoradio.com/images/phorum/ARF/3236phil.jpg]

[Image: https://philcoradio.com/images/phorum/ARF/decal2.jpg]

The Rock-Sea repro is very close to the original, but not quite identical. Notice how the P and H are different, the L is shorter, and the C is not rotated back slightly as on the original.

I'll be sending this info to Mike at Rock-Sea also...

--
Ron Ramirez
Ferdinand IN




Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)
[-]
Recent Posts
American Bosch Model 802 auto radio
Hello again;   I found a model 838 car radio on Nostalgia Air under United American Bosch, http://www.nostalgiaair.org/...Arran — 09:32 PM
New Philco Repair Bench
Morzh is correct. The repair bench on our website is an archived image of chuck’s original site. He no longer provides s...klondike98 — 05:32 PM
Made mistake & did not label connection
Excellent information. It is all starting to come together now and your explanation really helped since I noticed that ...georgetownjohn — 04:39 PM
Made mistake & did not label connection
Hi John, I don't have this radio, but I can supply some info: Based on your pic, pins 7,8 and 1 are used together, go...MrFixr55 — 02:02 PM
New Philco Repair Bench
As far as I know, the Repairbench does not work, and has not been working in a while. Chuck (we had that campaign looki...morzh — 01:33 PM
Radio city products 664 schematic request
Need a schematic or manual for the 664. The 663 may be similar.daveone23 — 12:38 PM
New Philco Repair Bench
Thanks Gary.dconant — 12:16 PM
New Philco Repair Bench
I tried accessing the site through our library and got the same response. It's reported to our tech gurus. GaryGarySP — 11:50 AM
New Philco Repair Bench
I am sure this is the archive, and not the Chuck's site.morzh — 09:50 PM
Made mistake & did not label connection
It's not like we are good friends with that wire and can tell it from other ptetty identical looking wires. Why'n't you...morzh — 09:49 PM

[-]
Who's Online
There are currently no members online.

>